Comments on: News: Tokyo Game Show

By: Lusipurr

Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:46:09 +0000

@DancingMatt: I haven’t played Persona 3 (although I own both FES and Portable), so I couldn’t possibly say!

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By: Matt Dance

Sun, 20 Sep 2015 14:24:02 +0000

@Mr. Purr: How do you like that one compared to Persona 3 Portable? In terms of characters, story, environments, music, mechanics, and all the things that make a JRPG good, 3 is by far my favorite SMT game.

@Wolfe: SMT IV is really good too! Atlus took a lot of what they learned from making all the side-series game and squeezed it into a tight little package. Maybe we’ll se SMT V come out on an aging PS4…

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By: Wolfe

Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:05:13 +0000

@Def: You know what they say about great minds: They like Persona!

. . .

Wait, is that how that goes?

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By: Lusipurr

Sun, 20 Sep 2015 03:55:00 +0000

@Dancing Matt: I actually kind of like Persona 1 (I am playing the PSP remake, not my PS1 version). It’s not bad on the whole. However, it is extremely unclear about how its systems work, and reading the instruction manual is useless. In this way it reminds me of Disagaea: Hour of Darkness–if one desires to know how to play the game, one must read the internet. And I just don’t have the interest to get into that right now.

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By: DefChaos

Sun, 20 Sep 2015 03:39:01 +0000

@Wolfe: I read comment 11, then had practically the exact same reaction that you then subsequently posted. Well played, sir. :)

A coworker and I had a $5 bet as to whether Persona 5 would release this year. I was the loser. Not upset by the delay though, just means that I’ll likely be playing it on ps4 upon release rather than ps3.

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By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:12:56 +0000

I really enjoyed Shin Megami Tensei 4 on the 3DS, for whatever that’s worth. But I understand the Persona games have their own unique qualities.

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By: Matt Dance

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 22:01:18 +0000

By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:38:26 +0000

@Lusi: It was several years ago now and my PS2 is safely tucked away in storage. When they inevitably release P4: the Golden for more modern hardware, I’ll hop in it then. Atlus are good guys though.

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By: SiliconNooB

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:52:07 +0000

@Lusi: That was just some careless wording on my part. I didn’t mean upconvert the standard definition video signal into a HD one, as a VGA upscaler might do. I was talking about the possibility of the games being rendered in a HD internal resolution, and probably shouldn’t have used the word ‘upscale’.

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By: Lusipurr

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 07:31:52 +0000

@Wolfe: That’s the shittiest game purchase story that I’ve ever heard.

But I bet if you contacted Atlus by e-mail, they might be willing to exchange it!

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By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 05:22:31 +0000

My Persona story is this. I haven’t played any. I bought P4 on the PS2, as it was all the rage. I bought it along with several other JRPGs which included Infinite Undiscovery and Lost Odyssey. P4 sat in its shrink wrap for half a year until I finally popped it open, and slipped it into my PS2. I got an error message, popped the disc out and examined it. Along the backside, from one side to the next was a crack. By that point I’d long lost the receipt and all I took away from it was a pretty good soundtrack included in the box.

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By: Lusipurr

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:45:27 +0000

You want the truth?
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
Because it is very hot and if you touch it, it stings, like an angry, red-hot wasp.

I will buy Persona 5 when it comes out and I will probably never play it.

So far I’ve played about 10 hours of Persona 1.

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By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:32:37 +0000

A thing you reach out for, as I understand it.

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By: AgitatedAdeki

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:30:01 +0000

I feel like those are conflicting messages. What is the truth?

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By: Lusipurr

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 04:04:45 +0000

I hate Persona and I have every game in the stupid main series.

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By: AgitatedAdeki

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 02:46:11 +0000

Sad about Persona 5 being delayed, but the trailer has given me enough hype to wait for another year. Even as I’m typing this I’m at the final boss of Persona 4 and the whole game was a ridiculous amount of fun! Can’t wait for more.

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By: Lusipurr

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:25:45 +0000

You are assuming that emulation on the PS4 won’t upscale PS2 games into HD
Launch PS3s have the option to do this with PS1/PS2 games, but the effect is negligible. You can switch back and forth between upscaled and native resolution mode yourself. The reason for this is given below (in option 3).

‘Upscaling’ doesn’t automatically result in better quality than the original. In fact, it doesn’t actually result in any change if one has relatively modern equipment. The games only have assets for, and only output to, SD resolutions. Most consoles can do some or all of these three things:

1. display the SD game at a 1:1 ratio (so it faithfully reproduces the original SD output in a small box on the HD screen).
2. upscale (that is, take the output and scale it up so that it fills the appropriate amount of the larger HD pixel area). This does not increase quality; it just makes the extant textures/images larger whilst preserving aspect ratio.
3. switch to outputting in SD, at which point most modern TVs automatically enlarge the image whilst preserving aspect ratio anyway. (so, it looks just like 2; if they don’t do this, it will look like 1).

An ‘upscaled’ version of FFXII would not look any different than the original release. You might as well play it on your PS2 connected to your HD TV for the same effect. The output will be at 1080p, but the game’s assets and output are still SD, and will just be enlarged. They will have precisely the same level of detail that they had to begin with.

Another way to think about this is like this: You can view a 640×480 image on a 640×480 VGA screen just like you can view it on my 2560×1440 iMac screen. It will be fairly small on my HD screen, although it will fill the VGA screen. But the exact same data is contained in both images.

To ‘upscale’ it, we could open that picture in GIMP, scale it up to 1920×1440, and save it. We will now have a 1920×1440 version which would fill the HD iMac screen top to bottom. But it wouldn’t have any more detail than the original picture did.

The only way to get more detail is to have higher res assets and use those, but that’s not going to come from a straight PS2 game. It’s not even on the disc. You will need a new version of the game where those higher resolution assets are available–like the FFX/X-2 HD Remix collection.

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By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:26:46 +0000

Amen to that!

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By: SiliconNooB

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:26:00 +0000

I’d be happy with a PS2 classic, and I’d be happy with an expensive port – I just wish that Square Enix would do something with it!

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By: Wolfe

Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:00:35 +0000

Be that as it may, I’d like to think they’d include some extras. Plus I’d have a hard edition to sit alongside my old steel case PS2 copy.

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By: SiliconNooB

Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:51:33 +0000

You are assuming that emulation on the PS4 won’t upscale PS2 games into HD… I’d as readily take a HD emulation of FFXII at $10 as I would take a slightly more polished HD port at $40.

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By: Wolfe

Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:07:21 +0000

TGS is always a good time. The alternative to the bloated crapfest that is E3. Setsuna looks promising. I really hope it lives up to its potential. The new Star Ocean is absolutely gorgeous and I have high hopes for it, and I’m doubly happy to hear about SO2 getting a PS4/Vita port over.

These on top of lots of other niche gamer goodness have left me feeling very optimistic about next year. And of course there’s Dark Souls 3, which I’m hopeful will rekindle the soul that 2 left somewhat less radiant.

Nice to hear the possibility of PS2 classics being released. There’s a handful I missed out on. But I don’t want a port of FFXII, I want that long rumoured HD remaster. If we can get every mobile incarnation of Kingdom Hearts remastered, they can throw me a goddamned bone.

As the resident Prison School fanboy, I’m ecstatic about the live action take on it. Particularly how well the actors/actresses match their respective counterparts.

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By: SiliconNooB

Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:04:48 +0000

Great, then they may have just not announced it yet.

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By: Lusipurr

Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:52:59 +0000

one is not aware of it being scheduled for simulcast on Funimation or Crunchyroll – obviously due to the fact that it is live action and not in fact an anime

Just a quick note: both Funimation and Crunchyroll stream live-action shows: their speciality in that area is (as you might expect) live-action versions of anime properties, although they do stream other stuff as well.

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