Comments on: Editorial: Remastered or Recycled? http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/ Thu, 03 Mar 2016 17:06:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.2 By: The Legendary Zoltan http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89846 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:33:54 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89846 Great article, Mel. A game making you want to play again immediately after beating it is a wonderful and rare thing.

Basically all of the games that were rumored to be remade several episodes back are ones I’ve been thinking about for a long time. FFXII and Dragon Quest VIII are at the top of my list. Another game that I think would benefit greatly from being remade is Valkyrie Profile 2. The environments in that game are so beautiful. They NEED to be in HD! Yet another one is Brave Fencer Musashi. I don’t know if it would sell that well though.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89725 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:13:43 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89725 I absolutely think games are worth preserving but it’s becoming increasingly cumbersome. Not everything gets transfer/ported/remastered, and digital emulation is often a poor substitute. But like as not, digital-only gaming is an eventuality. Probably not next gen, but it’s coming. I also expect the current understanding of a hardware generation to change a lot as well.

I’ll “this” this.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89718 Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:40:50 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89718 Hollywood has indeed been doing this EXACT thing for decades and to a much greater extent. “Remaster” is a newly applied term to the realm of gaming, but in movies it’s quite common. As well as with reboots, Hollywood has set trends for gaming when it comes to selling products and scrap-booking old content into new forms.

Gaming has been particularly susceptible to ports and now up-res’d remasters since the hardware is always changing. In the time that we’ve gone through over eight generations of mainstream consoles, each with their own mediums, movies have gone through about 3 or 4. And whenever people can’t use their old purchases (which can’t happen often enough for game and movie publishers) you’ll see an uptick in transfers to the new medium, especially if that medium is a significant upgrade.

I absolutely think games are worth preserving but it’s becoming increasingly cumbersome. Not everything gets transfer/ported/remastered, and digital emulation is often a poor substitute. But like as not, digital-only gaming is an eventuality. Probably not next gen, but it’s coming. I also expect the current understanding of a hardware generation to change a lot as well.

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89696 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:48:12 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89696 I also want that FFXII remaster.
“When companies cannot innovate, they fall back on trying to milk what worked in the past.”
Pretty well sums up the entire remaster craze, honestly. In a roundabout way, it can be applied to what Hollywood does with reboots of old franchises.
Begs a sort of question of the nature of gaming longevity and what’s worth preserving. But I’m not sure how to word it, or how to begin answering it.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89375 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 03:01:58 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89375 I want a Final Fantasy XII remaster. I want it now. My bones ache for it. Give it to me.
This.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89370 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:00:56 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89370 Silent Hill 2 got a remaster a while back, but it was botched in part because the original source code was lost. Which isn’t as big of a problem as it seems because A) that’s common for games before like 2005 and B) up-resing and remasters and ports handled by third party companies usually just rip the code right from an original disc instead of relying on some ancient compiled code that may or may not be incomplete.

The problem with that game was they decided to strip away elements that seemed ugly but in fact were done to hide certain restrictions (like draw distance).

The Resident Evil games got some spin offs, like Revelations, which were ok but imo they were underwhelming and saddled with poor design choices. Plus, they’re all continuations of RE4, which is more action than puzzle solving. May as well be any other third person shooter.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89368 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:09:58 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89368 @Mel: I was under the impression that there have been several remakes amongst the, yes? I recall there was a Silent Hill package which screwed up the voice acting terribly.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89366 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:50:56 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89366 All of the most recent Resident Evil and Silent Hill games, since RE4 (in 2005) and Silent Hill 4 (in 2004), have been painfully boring or outright atrocious.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89365 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:08:29 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89365 “survival horror has been mostly disserviced or simply unserviced for a long while.”
Surely this is not really true? Silent Hill and Resident Evil have both had numerous remakes in the past few years.

“I feel the lesson learned was not to make more games like this, given its success, but to re-release more games like this.”
This. But it’s actually a lesson that these watered-down companies can actually do. Capcom and Konami have development teams that are today a shadow of what they once were, despite probably having larger budgets and more people than ever before. Consequently, they usually make junk. But when it comes down to these re-releases, the job is easier: no gameplay to innovate, after all. That is, of course, when they actually do the remake themselves, rather than just farming it out to a third-party.

When companies cannot innovate, they fall back on trying to milk what worked in the past.

“The comparison to modern gaming is almost damning of the chopped up content served today with extraneous online modes or half-assed DLC campaigns.”
This is the delicious rub! By releasing the excellent, complete experiences of the past, they only serve to demonstrate how shitty is their modern, triple-A, Hollywood-bloat approach. I am glad of this, because I do not want people to ever forget that, once upon a time, gamers owned games, and got them all at once at the moment of purchase. And, what’s more, THEY WORKED.

“It would be a fine comeuppance indeed if in the mindless push for more remasters of old games, consumer distaste for modern games’ monetization methods were soured.”
This exactly. May it please God.

“Have you run aground of any remasters yet, fine fellows?”
I want a Final Fantasy XII remaster. I want it now. My bones ache for it. Give it to me.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89328 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 06:07:06 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89328 @Mel: I think you’re thinking of Outcast.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89319 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 02:17:03 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89319 Isn’t it a movie about Tom Hanks on an island–oh that’s Cast Away.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89313 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:57:03 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89313 Isn’t Outlast that racing game from the Genesis?

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89305 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:40:58 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89305 Thanks!

*Steals opinion. Sells it for millions. MILLIONS*

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89301 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:05:54 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89301 I wouldn’t exactly call Outlast a survival horror game, it’s more just a horror game. Games like Resident Evil weren’t really all that scary and I don’t think they were intended to be. They were more tense whereas games like Outlast use jump scares and creepypasta style settings to unnerve you the entire time, which never appealed to me.

Survival Horror, as I know it, is more of an off branch of point and click games. They use a lot of puzzle solving, a lot of back tracking, and a lot of reading mixed with limited action elements. The RE series was definitely more on the action spectrum, but certainly wasn’t full tilt on scares like the first person flashlight games of today.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89298 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:41:55 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89298 I know this doesn’t have to do with remasters, but did you play Outlast, Mel? I was too scared to play more than 20 minutes, but it seemed pretty good. Then again, I know practically nothing about the genre, so I’m curious about your thoughts if you have played it.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89290 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:41:00 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89290 *any more

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2015/02/12/editorial-remastered-or-recycled/#comment-89289 Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:40:24 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=12470#comment-89289 I don’t think Capcom needs anymore convincing to re-release literally everything they have, as the re-release of the flop, DmC, amply demonstrates.

will be construed by other publishers as a genuine appetite for re-releases.

If publishers come to this realisation then it should be something that strikes fear into their hearts, because it will mean that gamers have stopped looking towards the future of those companies.

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