Comments on: News: Nintendont

By: SiliconN00B

SiliconN00B — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:42:51 +0000

“I had always thought some of their more protracted problems coming from too close a tie between making their games and producing their consoles, meaning they make devices only good for playing the games they have in mind for them.”

This is my read of the situation too.

Third parties seem to be an afterthought for Nintendo, so the hardware is not developed to meet third party needs, and third party support is not in place (just as customer support is not in place).

Nintendo will do anything to shave a penny, even when it means foregoing a small fortune in additional revenue streams in the process (just as Lusi suggests). They also like lying about all the ambitious things they are working on for their customers, which they fully do not ever intend to deliver on.

The problem isn’t just that Nintendo consoles are developed specifically for the development of Nintendo games to the exclusion of third party interests, but also that Nintendo consoles are developed specifically for the development of Nintendo games to the exclusion of consumer interests. Also, the problem isn’t just this, but also the fact that they’d rather hobble their system than give over the tiniest modicum of control to their users.

By: Ethos

Ethos — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:43:48 +0000

I’m not even sure that Iwata and Miyamoto would specifically be at odds, at least from an ideological standpoint, but rather that Nintendo’s development philosophies – at their best – seem to contradict Nintendo’s business strategies and decisions. I think the “problem” of Nintendo developing their consoles to suit their first party development isn’t something they view as a problem. It feels to me like the biggest problem they have with third party support is how big of a deal other people make about it. I’m not saying I agree, but that’s the sense I get.

By: Mel

Mel — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:20:22 +0000

That’s interesting, I’ve never really thought of Nintendo being split that way. I had always thought some of their more protracted problems coming from too close a tie between making their games and producing their consoles, meaning they make devices only good for playing the games they have in mind for them.

It’s interesting to think that the developer side of Nintendo (probably most accurately characterized by Miyamoto) and the publisher side (Iwata) would sometimes be at odds. I don’t doubt it’s possible, I just hadn’t thought it of like that before.

By: Ethos

Ethos — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:38:53 +0000

@Wolfe – Yes, I’m starting to realize that despite their best efforts to pretend they are the same thing, it feels like Nintendo the developer and Nintendo the publisher ultimately have very different goals, even if they’re not honest with themselves about it.

By: Wolfe

Wolfe — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:50:50 +0000

I really -want- to like Nintendo. They make beautiful, polished games that seem to run the opposite of what I expect from the industry today. But they’re just so damn -backwards- in so many ways.

By: Mel

Mel — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:26:42 +0000

As discussed on the podcast, the fact that the Gamepad works with these hacked GC games and not with the allowed Wii-mode games is infuriating. It’s not that Nintendo has created some wacky system with weird limits, it’s that they just don’t wanna. Or at least it would seem that way. sigh

By: Lusipurr

Lusipurr — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:20:12 +0000

Payphones do exist, but they’re hard to find. I see them rarely, here and there.

The Nintendo’s native support of GCN games was originally in there because they intended to sell GCN games on their Virtual Console. Unfortunately, Nintendo has a company-wide development team of three people, so there’s no one to do any of it. And, rather than spend money to hire the people to create the content, they’d prefer to sit around with their thumb up their arse whilst the world moves ahead.

It’s absurd. Sometimes one must to spend money to make money, but Nintendo is too niggardly to accept that.

By: Ferchu

Ferchu — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 07:36:51 +0000

swatting is so stupid, I can’t conceive how someone can see that as funny

By: DiceAdmiral

DiceAdmiral — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:36:04 +0000

Payphones still exist? I haven’t seen one in years.

By: SiliconNooB

SiliconNooB — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:22:44 +0000

The penalty is apparently a year in prison, but the trouble is catching them, since they are often using a payphone etc.

By: DiceAdmiral

DiceAdmiral — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:13:58 +0000

Swatting is just the worst. There has got to be a felony being committed at some point during that process. I hope we start seeing these assholes put behind bars before one of them gets someone killed.