Comments on: Editorial Miscellany: The Other Side http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/ Wed, 18 May 2016 06:40:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.2 By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78599 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:07:56 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78599 Perhaps. To me it feels like it would be a natural exploration and progression of the presented themes and characters. To me it feels like they hit stage two in the conceptual process, said “wow, this is cool!” and stopped there.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78574 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:57:13 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78574 Ethan, it sounds as though you are looking for something very specific, which the game, through no fault of its own, fails to provide.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78559 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:35:50 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78559 Perhaps I’m explaining it poorly. I agree that those specific conflicts can be reasonably reconciled (although I still feel it would take more than simply admitting that the shadow self is a part of them. Admitting there’s a problem is only the first step after all), but I don’t feel like the reconciliation of one specific conflict means that there would no longer be dualities within the characters. I’m disappointed because of the fact that the game recognizes these sorts of conflicts with occasional sharpness, but then doesn’t treat the concept with the sort of continuing deftness that I felt was possible in the start of the game. I’m still enjoying it and I still like the concept, I just feel like it’s the kiddie pool version.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78419 Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:00:42 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78419 I am aware that that is the basis, but that’s why I’m disappointed by how it’s handled. I don’t really buy that they should cease to be a problem.

I can’t really agree with this. None of the issues that the characters confront really need to be problems at all if identified for what they are and viewed in the proper context. Once these issues are dealt with and reconciled I don’t see why they would pose a continuing problem.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78281 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:06:42 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78281 @Lusi – I agree that diet and exercise are the best paths to health, and I continue to try and improve those areas. I like Wii Fit because it’s something that can regulate and track my progress and keep me accountable as a supplement. It’s certainly not a requirement, but it’s a good fit for me right now in addition to my attempts to eat better, a weekly squash game, and all the brisk walking I already do.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-78280 Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:03:43 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-78280 I am aware that that is the basis, but that’s why I’m disappointed by how it’s handled. I don’t really buy that they should cease to be a problem. Maybe those specific conflicts to some extent, but I feel that by digging into that sort of theme, it rings false that it would externalize a (usually) interesting internal conflict but then continue on as if looking inward and accepting one’s specific faults regarding one conflict once was all that was needed. Ultimately I suppose I’m disappointed that the philosophical dip is so shallow when it shows promise.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77933 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:25:29 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77933 And I find that to be inconsistent with the theme. The dark sides of us that we find hard to accept isn’t just a one-time acceptance, it’s an on-going nonstop process. That’s why it’s strange for me that the reconciliation is the end of it when – I agree – some are quite strong. To me, it feels like it would be the beginning, not the end, of the conflict.

Once they learn to accept the negative aspects to their natures they are then able to integrate them into their personalities, and thus they cease to be a problem. The Persona games have always had pretensions to philosophy, so what I imagine they are going for is that each instance represents a conflict between the Id and the Super Ego, where the Super Ego is way out of balance, and is stifling their base urges. Once the character is able to face both sides of themselves the two drives are once again in balance, and their Ego [Persona] is able to regulate the two. If you look at the character’s newly formed Persona then you can see that it [usually] features stylistic elements in common with the boss you just fought.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77924 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:06:19 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77924 I haven’t played Rosalina myself, I’ve only gotten my ever loving ass handed to me by people playing as her. She’s near impossible to approach if she does the right moves, on the ground or in the air it doesn’t matter. That said, I had the same problem with trying to control characters I’m generally good at on the 3DS. For instance I cannot get into Dr. Mario. Not with that fumbly circle pad. Chances are I’ll be right at home on the Wii U since he’s not terribly different from before.

Also, it’s fun to beat up noobs as Little Mac. He’s probably the funnest character to play with with because he’ll two-stock someone in under a minute. That said, if your opponent knows what they’re doing, he’s dead in the water.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77921 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:28:08 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77921 as each internal conflict is essentially reconciled.

And I find that to be inconsistent with the theme. The dark sides of us that we find hard to accept isn’t just a one-time acceptance, it’s an on-going nonstop process. That’s why it’s strange for me that the reconciliation is the end of it when – I agree – some are quite strong. To me, it feels like it would be the beginning, not the end, of the conflict.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77898 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 05:45:21 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77898 “when I opened it, I found a huge crack running along the entire back length of the disc”

That is complete assbollocks. That said, I seem to recall a story around the game launch about this being something that lots of people experienced, and Atlus did a thing where people sent them broken discs and got replacements. Probably too late for that now, though.

“JRPGs, while my favorite genre, are a serious time sink.”
Few moreso than the Persona series, which are especially demanding–even for JRPGs.

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77886 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 03:16:17 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77886 Persona 4 is a game that has always been just out of reach for me. I actually picked it up along with several other JRPGs back in the late 00s. Unfortunately I left it on the shelf, in it’s original wrapping for over a year, and when I opened it, I found a huge crack running along the entire back length of the disc. No receipt anywhere. On the plus side, I had a lovely ost included in the package. At this point, I just don’t see myself devoting serious time to it, even if I should come by it. JRPGs, while my favorite genre, are a serious time sink.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77881 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 00:43:47 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77881 darkest parts of ourselves is a great thing to explore, but so far the game just seems to scratch the surface, starting with promising internal conflict, but not maintaining the same level of thoughtfullness afterward.

What do you mean by this? There are some quite good ones, but each of the issues are dropped after their conclusion, as each internal conflict is essentially reconciled.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77859 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:51:07 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77859 @Ethos: I have genuinely found the PSP version of Persona to be more visually attractive. Those pixel-perfect sprites age beautifully.

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By: Ethos http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77856 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:42:40 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77856 Also, the game is ugly. It reminds me of early PS2 games like Dark Cloud and Wild ARMs 3.

This is true. There are some stylistically strong moments and elements, but I was thinking the same thing while playing.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/15/editorial-miscellany-the-other-side/#comment-77847 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:19:07 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11975#comment-77847 “Also, far worse, is the music. At times it is unlistenable, a double kick drum persisting relentlessly throughout a track that never, ever called for such a thing”

Yes. Absolutely.

“Also, the music has grown on me as I have slowly come to get a better sense of the game. I am still not completely sold, however.”

I feel only marginally better about this than I do about Hyrule Warriors. Also, the game is ugly. It reminds me of early PS2 games like Dark Cloud and Wild ARMs 3.

“I still would say that there is no real reason to buy the handheld version for people who consider the console version to be the main attraction”

Confirm. Just wait for Smash F U.

“Considerably less fun than I expected was attempting to transfer my save data from Wii Fit Plus to Wii Fit U”

SN and I were speaking about Wii Fit the other day. As a general rule, it’s much more healthful simply to have a balanced, low-fat diet, and a bit of reasonable exercise. I recommend a one-hour walk in the park each day whilst listening to an audiobook, a bit of an opera, or a couple of symphonies.

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