Comments on: News: EA Tries to Sit on Both Sides of the GamerGate http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/ Mon, 21 Dec 2015 05:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4 By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76679 Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:02:53 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76679 Apparently they haven’t managed to catch up for a chat with Nintendo in a couple of years…

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76668 Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:30:06 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76668 I am simply amazed that there is a game dev chasing the casuals in late 2014. That’s a bit like trying to board the Titanic in 1956.

That ship has long since sailed. More than that, it has long since crashed, sunk, and been recognised as a bad idea.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76662 Sat, 04 Oct 2014 07:22:19 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76662 That actually makes a lot of sense, and shows how truly oblivious they are to western culture.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76653 Sat, 04 Oct 2014 01:24:58 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76653 I believe ‘core game’ means its success is essential for Square Enix’s business plan, and hence the controls are casual, for uptake by the largest number of people possible.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76640 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:52:09 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76640 Dementia would nicely explain some of SE’s decisions lately…

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76639 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:26:08 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76639 I hope that there is some fundamental misunderstanding occurring during translation, because the guy sounds like he’s suffering from dementia, and I’d hate to see what he’s been doing in the director’s chair…

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76637 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:20:16 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76637 That Tabata quote is such nonsensical wacky-speak. It’s a core game, SO it has casual controls??

??????

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76635 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:39:20 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76635 True, but they tend to develop their own ideals which run against the grain of their predecessors.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76634 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:26:38 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76634 The thing about youngsters is that there’s always more of them.

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76633 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:25:02 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76633 The internet culture will reassert itself. The bulk of the current crop of SJW sorts loyal to sites like Kotaku seem to skew towards the younger side, and it’s likely a lot of them will simply outgrow or stop caring about these social causes they’re supporting now out of a misguided sense of obligation to a loosely defined greater good.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76632 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:22:14 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76632 I am not worried at all that these people will ruin my games broadly speaking [they may cause some mischief here or there], I am more concerned that they will ruin my internet culture [as they’ve mostly trashed it already].

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76631 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:10:38 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76631 @Julian: True, but irrational fear comes with being in love with something. Ultimately I think the consumer market will set the tone for what’s produced and we’ll see a wide range of titles representing various tastes, much in the same way we see in cinema. But there’s a majority share of that creative collective and my concern is that these Leigh Alexander types will direct it.

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76630 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:06:53 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76630 I propose we replace Google’s auto translate function with Lusi’s moonspeak translation otpion as it appears far more accurate.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76629 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:06:46 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76629 Because if what those people want is the future of gaming, there’s no place for it in my life. And I’d hate to see a day where I don’t consider myself in some regard, to be a gamer.

Well, we can always just swear off the new stuff and enjoy good old games. Honestly though, I feel that there are probably too many bro gamers for these knuckleheads to ever be able to pull off what they are attempting.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76625 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:58:22 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76625 @SN: I’ll have a go at it.

“In order to make the game more appealing to people who are not interested in it, we are doing our best to ensure that, no matter who picks up the controller, they will be able to play through the game–even the blind, the lame, the mentally incompetent, and the profoundly disinterested.

However, despite having just made this claim, believe me when I also say that the game is not, in fact, meant to be more appealing to these sorts of people; nor should you believe that everyone will have the capacity to play through it.

Now, forget what I just said, again, because Final Fantasy XV is a game which is essential to our company’s financial survival, and as such we have done our best to ensure that everyone will have the capacity to play through it.

If you obtain good weapons, and level up your characters, you will find the main scenarios very easy. This may or may not be related to the fact that we have done our best to ensure that everyone will have the capacity to play through it. Nor should you believe that you will have trouble clearing the main scenario even if you do not obtain good weapons and level up your characters.

We will probably make obtaining good weapons and levelling up your characters something that can be done without effort, just to make sure.”

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76624 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:57:50 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76624 @Lusipurr: Aye sir, that is exactly what I’m concerned about. When I say free market, I am thinking entirely of the sales to those who don’t actively seek out the metascores and other such useless systems intended to determine a title’s worth. I’m up to date on what’s been going on with journos and their little secret club that was exposed for all to see. I’m just hopeful that the average gamer won’t bother with them. Because if what those people want is the future of gaming, there’s no place for it in my life. And I’d hate to see a day where I don’t consider myself in some regard, to be a gamer.

@Julian: Moonspeakers, perhaps? Politicians, most likely. They’re highly adept at doublespeak. Come to think of it, perhaps you could forward it to an EA rep.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76622 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:44:48 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76622 Who can make sense of this?

In order to widen its appeal, we’re developing the game aware that anyone can immediately be able to play it, however the game as a whole is not casual. Because it’s a core game, we have casual controls. If you obtain good weapons and level up, you won’t have to worry about clearing the main scenarios.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76620 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:38:29 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76620 @Wolfe:

At least it will then be the consumer’s choice, and not the progressive leftist cult that is modern ‘gaming journalism’ determining the future.

The problem, of course, is that the ‘journalists’ try to rig the system by denying/inflating coverage to suit their aims, by ‘adjusting’ review scores, and by subtly editorialising their news presentations. The end goal is to manipulate sales and market trends.

For example, let us assume a Journo doesn’t like a game because he has some sort of ideological axe to grin. If he can convince enough people not to buy that game (using whatever means: lowering scores, reducing coverage, negatively tinting the news about it), then that could force the developer to do what he says in their next game so as to avoid the reviewer’s ire. And, when the reviewers are all colluding and fixing their scores and reviews together, the result is nothing more or less than strong-arming of devs by a tiny circle of internet demagogues.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76619 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:31:08 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76619 it is certainly a sign of how far the custodians of video game culture have fallen that blatant dishonesty can seem so much more refreshing than the insidious kind of misinformation that has been attempting to strangle gamer culture for the past two months

This.

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By: Wolfe http://lusipurr.com/2014/10/03/news-ea-tries-to-sit-on-both-sides-of-the-gamergate/comment-page-1/#comment-76618 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:29:29 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11929#comment-76618 Leigh Alexander (and Gamasutra as a site really) is the face of what GamerGate exists to stand against. Abusive, hate-mongering, power-mad political agenda driver posing as a gaming enthusiast. We don’t need that kind of human tarnishing our hobby, and what happened with Intel is a wonderful example of consequence for poor behavior. I only hope we see more of this.

Tabata at this point is a one man wrecking machine for his own PR attempts. The more he talks, the more confused the narrative seems to be. I honestly think that we won’t have a real idea of how this thing works until the demo lands next year. Still hoping for the best, but not expecting much.

“Protip to EA: the kind of idiots who would sign up to something like this never posed a risk to women in the first place”
— This right here. This exemplifies the sort of reaction most of us had when this White House generated, distractionary nonsense emerged as a public initiative.

I did in fact applaud Mancil’s statement when it first came out and hoped it was perhaps a sign of a big publisher (perhaps the most notorious) about to make a serious statement or perhaps explain what the hell they let happen to Bioware in recent years, but it is, as you say, nothing more than an attempt to keep both sides of the coin appeased and ensure their financial quotas are met. Bioware is all EA had that interested me in any way, and they’ve certainly lanced it right through the soul. Cisquitision indeed.

I do hope that ultimately the free market casts the verdict on what thrives in the industry. At least it will then be the consumer’s choice, and not the progressive leftist cult that is modern ‘gaming journalism’ determining the future.

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