Comments on: Editorial: Going Backward Is not Forward http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/ Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:02:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: LegendaryApple http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71256 Mon, 26 May 2014 15:23:16 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71256 @Ethos – I’m admittedly very biased towards pirates. AC2 had a better plot, but AC4 let me roam the seas and pillage. It may not be the best reasoning, but that was enough for me to consider it the best.

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By: Ethan 'Ethos' Pipher http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71254 Mon, 26 May 2014 15:13:19 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71254 @Legendary – Exactly. Also, I would contend that AC4 is still a noticeable step below 2 in the series. In fact, while I enjoy 4, 2 would be the only one I make a case for being a good game.

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By: LegendaryApple http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71252 Mon, 26 May 2014 14:55:33 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71252 I suppose you’re right. I never went into the Zelda games to see how they connect to others because it doesn’t matter.

I was going to bring up how Assassin’s Creed 4 is a prequel to 3 and is considered the best in the franchise, but then I remembered that every moment outside the Animus takes place after the other entries. So in terms of overall narrative, it’s a sequel.

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By: Ethan 'Ethos' Pipher http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71250 Mon, 26 May 2014 13:39:30 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71250 Completion of Skyward reveals enough plot to make its place as a prequel fairly transparent, especially during the final hours, but it’s a frivolous point because I ultimately agree with you, Lusi. The Zelda series works because it doesn’t tie itself too hard to any other entry and follows the more marathon-ready Final Fantasy method. Nintendo has maintained for a very long time that they’ve always kept a secret timeline, but frankly I couldn’t give a fuck whether or not they have. Arbitrarily connecting plots is not interesting to me, and for all Zelda does extremely well with story, intricately structured plot points has never been their strength and I think the games have been the better for it. Too many games are complicated for the sake of being complicated, and Zelda leaves room for the imagination to play, a great boon in fantasy gaming.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71161 Sun, 25 May 2014 18:02:16 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71161 I think the connexion between the Zelda games is very tenuous. I know that the developers now want us to believe that they are all part of some grand, orchestrated storyline, but that certainly wasn’t in their minds when many of these games were originally made. Rather, it was applied after the fact.

Admittedly, this change took place before Skyward Sword, but its location as furthest back, chronologically, in the Zelda series is no more apparent in that game than any of the other games’ chronological locations are. There is a sense of some very vague relativity, but to *what* Zelda game each is referring itself relatively is, on the basis of the evidence in the games alone, pure speculation. Only that ridiculous handbook can offer conclusive evidence–evidence not present in the games themselves.

The links between Zelda games are, for me, like the links between Final Fantasy games. Sometimes, they appear to take place in the same world, and there are ‘echoes’ of this or that, but any truly ‘solid’ connexion which matters in terms of its effect on the world and the story and so on? Almost entirely absent. The Wind Waker has the most of that, and even then it is largely irrelevant in practical terms except as an explanation of how things came to be as they are–and even then, any Zelda game would suffice to fit the bill.

So, I don’t know that we can praise Skyward Sword too much for being a ‘great prequel’. Its chronological connexion to the ‘sequel’ games may be something avowed by the creators, but its actual significance and presence in the games is so small that few people would even notice unless they were first made aware of the fact.

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By: LegendaryApple http://lusipurr.com/2014/05/23/editorial-going-backward-is-not-forward/#comment-71076 Sat, 24 May 2014 22:21:35 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=11423#comment-71076 What about Skyward Sword? That games story was great and it was a prequel to every Zelda game ever made. I never felt that the game sacrificed creativity by delving into the past and filling in the gaps.

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