Comments on: TSM Episode 56: Santorum Claus http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/ Thu, 14 Aug 2014 23:19:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32075 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:23:08 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32075 As a final point of interest, I would like to submit this ( http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/caanoo.cgi ) as a best case scenario of what the Ouya’s software library might look like…

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32072 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:00:48 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32072 And it only gets better:

“The controller aspect was one of many issues Ben Kuchera had with the console when he wrote about it, and his thoughts echo the sentiment of a few other pundits in the media. I asked Julie how she’s been addressing these concerns, and what she made in particular of Ben’s assessment.

I don’t really want to give him any more attention because I feel like his premise was off — he seemed to be wanting to review us like a final product on the market.””

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32070 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:45:55 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32070 “Yes, the controller is a big change — and an essential one,” emphasized Urhman. “Games designed for touch will still work on OUYA — because our controller is designed with a touchpad. But we expect many developers will want to take advantage of the responsiveness and precision of a true game controller. And, some of the designers we’ve spoken with believe that our controller might inspire new types of gameplay.”

Wait… wat?!

I would just like to point out that for under $100 you can already purchase “5 and “7 Android handheld machines which feature physical buttons (and also a HDMI out). China has created a prolific selection of these devices, and I expect that the Ouya will just be a re-badged iteration of one of these devices (at best).

Case and point: http://www.willgoo.com/

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32065 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 05:27:45 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32065 @Mel: You’re being paid? Donate those funds at once!

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32061 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:27:34 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32061 It’s what you pay me for, isn’t it?

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32060 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:20:18 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32060 @Mel: Exaggerate? I never exaggerate. Wrong again, Mel!

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32052 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:14:07 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32052 There’s a smidgen of exaggeration in there that I could pick out, but there’s no point to it. Ultimately you say: It wont work. And I don’t think it’ll work either. We’re just getting to our conclusions in different ways. We disagree in those ways, I know.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32045 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:42:01 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32045 @Mel: I think most people are giving money to this because a fool and his money are soon parted. You say, ‘they want something different.’ I say not all change is good, and change for the sake of change is a mask for stupidity. The change that the Ouya represents is not a good change. It is a change based in complete naievete: an open console (which developers will shun), loaded with demos and shovelware, priced higher than the better alternatives, and being driven by the lunatic belief that All the games will be freeeeeee! And that these will somehow include Final Fantasy and Mario!

You say they don’t know about the raspberry pi. I say they must be the greatest fucking fools in the world, then–ready to give a hundred dollars to a console that doesn’t exist, backed up by duplicitous language, promised at some as-yet-unannounced future date; but *not* capable of seeing if the thing they want already exists (p.s. it does exist, in numerous forms, at lower cost).

If you donate to the design of something without bothering to see if it already exists, you are a fool, and that is why I have not one jot of sympathy for these morons, nor will I. I will enjoy the flimflam coming down and the lack of any sort of justice being available to them. And then the dent to Kickstarter will be mighty fine, too.

Ever heard of the South Sea Bubble?

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32043 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:54:38 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32043 Most people who want the next Madden, FF or AC don’t know what a Raspberry Pi even IS. But that poll is pretty interesting. However, I’m inclined to think that the only kinds of people who would participate in such a poll are the softheaded type they show themselves to be. I’m not really certain it represents accurately all the people who gave money to the project.

I know you really hate kickstarter, and that’s fine. But I think most people are giving this thing money because they want to see something different happen in the console market. It doesn’t mean (and I don’t think) it will succeed.

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By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32040 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:02:32 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32040 @Mel: If open hack-and-distribute is all that people want, they can buy a Raspberry Pi right now and have something in their hands that they can use. I rather believe (and the polling unsurprisingly shows) that people want Madden, Call of Duty, Final Fantasy, Assassin’s Creed, &c. for free, and they think that by giving money to these fraudsters that they are going to get it.

@DCS: That is one of the most misleading things about this whole Ouya situation: a ‘free demo’ constitutes a ‘free game’ according to their terminology. Anyone who has even a cursory experience with game demos knows what a line of B.S. that is.

As for Tidus laughing: unnecessary. I really will laugh myself silly for weeks if when this entire thing blows up. There will be plenty and to spare of my audible hilarity.

@Matt Dance: Shutting down The Boss may be a compliment to his mighty rockin’, but I can’t help but think of Cromwell’s generals running about, locking up people for celebrating Christmas. If a beloved musician wants to give the people a little extra, why are the forces of Public Order stepping in to turn off the taps? It just smacks of the oppressive, ever-present officiousness that has become the de facto standard in Britain and India. In America, Springsteen would be lauded for giving people a concert far beyond what they had signed up for. In Britain, how very dare he!

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32036 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:43:05 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32036 I think it’s attracting people with the open nature of the console–something people can hack and distribute games on easily. But I didn’t think that would create such a strong attraction. We’ll see what it becomes, but I don’t think it’s going to do that well.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32034 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:09:16 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32034 The thing is that anyone can just hook an Android device to their TV via HDMI, synch a wireless controller, and have their Android console – and I don’t understand how the Ouya will be any different to that. The only original games will be homebrew, and other than that it will run Android software and emulators etc.

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By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32031 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:51:05 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32031 I feel like sometimes Jim Sterling feels like he needs to champion a cause, and he often get impassioned about that cause along the way. I don’t side with him on every occasion, but I tend to find myself agreeing with him.

Also, lets say I’m finding it hard to be optimistic about Ouya. It’s been given so much money so quickly…it’s just @_@

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By: Matt Dance http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32028 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:18 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32028 As per the shutdown in Hyde Park… I know from personal experience that if the cops (bobbies?) shut you down, you’ve been rocking entirely too hard, and it really should be considered a compliment.

Also, I just found out that I live near the only official cricket stadium in the U.S.?! And just after, I think, West Indies vs. New Zealand.

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By: DanChiSao http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32027 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:39:42 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32027 As far as Ouya goes, there just has to be a free version of a game, which could just be a demo. The developer can offer a “full version” of the game for a price over and above that.

If you’re going to laugh for an hour, you should mix in Tidus laughing at times just to give yourself a break.

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By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/07/16/tsm-episode-56-santorum-claus/#comment-32021 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:45:23 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8742#comment-32021 Those kids look like the two little kids that you always see in ghost movies!

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