Comments on: TSM Episode 53: Celebrationcast http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/ Sat, 30 Jun 2012 01:40:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28913 Lusipurr Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:43:26 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28913 @SN: He's got you there! @SN: He’s got you there!

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28911 Mel Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:42:31 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28911 What you mean look like? It IS that $25 ePad, right down to its lack of multi-touch. What you mean look like? It IS that $25 ePad, right down to its lack of multi-touch.

]]> By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28899 SiliconNooB Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:37:26 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28899 Hey, do you guys know what isn't trendy? A FUCKING BRICK CONTROLLER! Let's try to capture the iPad market by making our controller look like a $25 Chinese ePad!! That's cool, right? ^_^ Hey, do you guys know what isn’t trendy?

A FUCKING BRICK CONTROLLER!

Let’s try to capture the iPad market by making our controller look like a $25 Chinese ePad!! That’s cool, right? ^_^

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28861 Mel Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:32:46 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28861 Lol, yes. The good old Hula Hoop. An apt comparison. Lol, yes. The good old Hula Hoop. An apt comparison.

]]> By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28853 Lusipurr Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:26:03 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28853 @Mel: That is the point I was making in my first comment. Fat chance on N making the WiiU as trendy as the Wii was. Ever heard of the Hulu Hoop? It was huge, amazing huge, once upon a time. And then it stopped being huge and it was never huge again--nor even really significant. Doesn't stop companies from trying to sell them. That's Nintendo. The WiiHuluHoop. @Mel: That is the point I was making in my first comment. Fat chance on N making the WiiU as trendy as the Wii was. Ever heard of the Hulu Hoop? It was huge, amazing huge, once upon a time. And then it stopped being huge and it was never huge again–nor even really significant. Doesn’t stop companies from trying to sell them.

That’s Nintendo. The WiiHuluHoop.

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28852 Mel Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:23:56 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28852 Haha, yeah. Probably. But you don't think there will be any confusion about the Wii U versus the Wii for those casual customers? Or that they'll probably look at their Wii, which they still use for Wii Bowling on occasion, and say "This still works, why get another?" I suppose if it's made trendy enough they'd go for the new system, but will that happen? That controller doesn't look like the nonthreatening TV remote the Wii had. Haha, yeah. Probably. But you don’t think there will be any confusion about the Wii U versus the Wii for those casual customers? Or that they’ll probably look at their Wii, which they still use for Wii Bowling on occasion, and say “This still works, why get another?” I suppose if it’s made trendy enough they’d go for the new system, but will that happen? That controller doesn’t look like the nonthreatening TV remote the Wii had.

]]> By: Lusipurr http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28842 Lusipurr Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:40:28 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28842 When, in today's market, Milton Bradley can persuade people to upgrade their board games, Nintendo will be able to persuade casuals to upgrade their consoles. Good luck, N! Appealing to everyone is a sure way to appeal to nobody; Nintendo will lose the core gamers in their shovelling of drivel and N-ware out on their consoles--they will lose the casual gamers through porting 360/PS3 titles which <i>frighten</i> those people, for they desperately don't want to be associated with anything resembling an actual <i>game</i>--only with the FB-style-shite that they are pleased to think is trendy and modern. When, in today’s market, Milton Bradley can persuade people to upgrade their board games, Nintendo will be able to persuade casuals to upgrade their consoles. Good luck, N!

Appealing to everyone is a sure way to appeal to nobody; Nintendo will lose the core gamers in their shovelling of drivel and N-ware out on their consoles–they will lose the casual gamers through porting 360/PS3 titles which frighten those people, for they desperately don’t want to be associated with anything resembling an actual game–only with the FB-style-shite that they are pleased to think is trendy and modern.

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28840 Mel Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:33:58 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28840 Yeah, I dunno. That article was saying how everything they did at E3 was all investor "fan service", so to say. But, on the other hand, if what Nintendo's doing doesn't excite people who will actually BUY their product (people like us, who in turn got all the moms and grandmas to buy the Wii in the first place) then a wise investor should be worried. But, if Nintendo's investors only want to see copies of things that worked previously (because that ALWAYS works, you know!) then I suppose this was an "appeal". *Sigh* What Nintendo's message was this time around is "we want to appeal to everybody". Which makes me think they'll end up appealing to nobody. You just can't please everyone. However, what I think Nintendo's actual strategy will be is to try and copy the Wii's performance as much as possible. That is to say, attempt to front load the Wii U with core titles that gamers want then dump that in favor of casual market shit that's easier to crank out. The problem for them, though, is two fold from what I gather: The Wii U's launch doesn't look as good as the Wii's to core gamers (strictly on a game schedule point of view) AND casuals will not upgrade for a host of reasons many others have discussed before. Yeah, I dunno. That article was saying how everything they did at E3 was all investor “fan service”, so to say. But, on the other hand, if what Nintendo’s doing doesn’t excite people who will actually BUY their product (people like us, who in turn got all the moms and grandmas to buy the Wii in the first place) then a wise investor should be worried. But, if Nintendo’s investors only want to see copies of things that worked previously (because that ALWAYS works, you know!) then I suppose this was an “appeal”. *Sigh*

What Nintendo’s message was this time around is “we want to appeal to everybody”. Which makes me think they’ll end up appealing to nobody. You just can’t please everyone. However, what I think Nintendo’s actual strategy will be is to try and copy the Wii’s performance as much as possible. That is to say, attempt to front load the Wii U with core titles that gamers want then dump that in favor of casual market shit that’s easier to crank out. The problem for them, though, is two fold from what I gather:

The Wii U’s launch doesn’t look as good as the Wii’s to core gamers (strictly on a game schedule point of view) AND casuals will not upgrade for a host of reasons many others have discussed before.

]]> By: SiliconNooB http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28806 SiliconNooB Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:46:14 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28806 If they were attempting to appeal to investors, then Nintendo certainly misfired! If they were attempting to appeal to investors, then Nintendo certainly misfired!

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28713 Mel Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:08:11 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28713 So, about Nintendo at E3. I found an interesting explanation. Yeah, it's from IGN, but it's also from their UK branch which I hold in slightly higher regard: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/25/what-on-earth-is-nintendo-up-to So, about Nintendo at E3. I found an interesting explanation. Yeah, it’s from IGN, but it’s also from their UK branch which I hold in slightly higher regard:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/25/what-on-earth-is-nintendo-up-to

]]> By: Mel http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28659 Mel Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:12:38 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28659 I would say that Nintendo understood they couldn't keep doing the same thing with the Gamecube. They realized they needed to change up the way they did things and took a big risk on the Wii, which happened to pay off in a huge way. At least it paid off for a time... And I'm sure you guys will mention thing later, but the Nintendo Direct webconference thing...Why wasn't this all saved for E3, I have no idea. So many interesting announcements. I would say that Nintendo understood they couldn’t keep doing the same thing with the Gamecube. They realized they needed to change up the way they did things and took a big risk on the Wii, which happened to pay off in a huge way. At least it paid off for a time…

And I’m sure you guys will mention thing later, but the Nintendo Direct webconference thing…Why wasn’t this all saved for E3, I have no idea. So many interesting announcements.

]]> By: Matt Dance http://lusipurr.com/2012/06/25/tsm-episode-53-celebrationcast/#comment-28625 Matt Dance Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:44:47 +0000 http://lusipurr.com/?p=8652#comment-28625 Readers: turn off your lights and air conditioning this summer to save money to donate to Lusipurr.com! Readers: turn off your lights and air conditioning this summer to save money to donate to Lusipurr.com!

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